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Jake Taylor - Improve Your Decisions

Jake Taylor stops by The Business Brew to discuss his new product Journalytic. Journalytic is a software designed to help investors improve their process and decision making. Clear thinking and decision making has been a passion of Jake’s for a very long time. Now, he is releasing the culmination of years of hard work to us, the public, FOR FREE. You can sign up at https://journalytic.com/.

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John McClain - Opportunities in Credit

John McClain, CFA stops by The Business Brew for a discussion about credit. John serves as a portfolio manager for the Brandywine Global’s High Yield and Corporate Credit Strategies. In this episode John makes the case for why high yield credit is a good bet after a bad year, discusses how corporate finance departments are more professional now (vs pre GFC), talks about companies adding value by buying back debt, and much more.

Before joining Brandywine Global, John was a Senior Vice President - Credit at Standard Life Investments from 2010 to 2014. From 2007 to 2010, he was with Nationwide Mutual Insurance as a Management Associate in the Financial Leadership Rotation Program and then an Investment Analyst in Distressed Debt. John is a CFA charterholder and earned a Master of Business Administration from Carnegie Mellon University and has a Bachelor of Science in Business Economics from University of Kentucky (magna cum laude). BrandywineGlobal’s High Yield Fund has earned a 5 star rating from Morningstar. Morningstar gives the fund above average ratings for Process and People. In the words of Morningstar, “the strategy’s distinctive, value-oriented approach exploits price inefficiencies that often materialize across smaller high-yield issuers. It earns an Above Average Process rating…Comanagers Bill Zox and John McClain execute a disciplined value approach: They buy issues when their market prices are lower than the team's estimate of intrinsic business value and sell them when their initial thesis has played out or when there are better opportunities in the market.”

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Bob Robotti - Searching For Improving Industries

Bob stops by The Business Brew to discuss his early career, what he has learned over his career, investing in cyclical businesses/industries, and his biggest investment "loser."

This conversation is filled with good lessons and we hope you enjoy. Robert Robotti is the President and Chief Investment Officer of Robotti & Company. Prior to forming Robotti & Company, Incorporated in 1983, Bob was a vice president and shareholder of Gabelli & Company, Inc. He worked in public accounting before coming to Wall Street and is currently an inactive CPA. Bob holds a BS from Bucknell University and an MBA in Accounting from Pace University. Some of Bob's areas of coverage include Special Situations, Energy Industry and Home Building. Bob is the principal of the managing member or general partner of several investment vehicles. Bob currently serves on the Board of Directors of a NYSE-listed real estate company, AMREP Corporation, located in Germantown, PA; as Chairman of the Board of Directors of Pulse Seismic Inc., a seismic data licensing business located in Calgary, Alberta; as an Independent Director of PrairieSky Royalty, a Toronto Stock Exchange listed company located in Calgary, Alberta, having one of the largest portfolios of sub-surface mineral rights in western Canada; as a recently elected Director of NYSE-listed Tidewater, Inc. which owns and operates one of the largest fleets of OSVs (Offshore Support Vessels) in the industry; and was previously on the Board of Directors of BMC Building Materials Holding Corporation, prior to the completion of its merger with Stock Building Supply Holdings, Inc. on December 1, 2015; and Bob had served on the Board of Panhandle Oil & Gas Company, a NYSE-listed diversified mineral company located in Oklahoma City through May 1, 2020. In addition, he serves on the Boards of many non-profit organizations where he generously donates his time and expertise. Previously, Bob was a member of the Securities and Exchange Commission's Advisory Committee on Smaller Public Companies, established to examine the impact of Sarbanes-Oxley Act and other aspects of the federal securities law.

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Cullen Roche - Why Macro Matters

Cullen Roche is the Founder of Discipline Funds. Discipline Funds is a low fee financial advisory and asset management firm. Prior to establishing his own business, Mr. Roche founded his own investment partnership in 2005 after working at Merrill Lynch Global Wealth Management where he helped oversee $500MM+ in assets under management. During the the 7 years running the partnership he was able to guide the small business to high risk adjusted returns with no negative full year returns during one of the most turbulent periods in stock market history.

Mr. Roche's primary areas of expertise include global macro portfolio construction, quantitative risk management, behavioral finance and monetary theory.

He is regularly cited in the Wall Street Journal, on CNBC and in the Financial Times. Mr. Roche is a Georgetown University alumnus, growing up in the DC area and now living in San Diego, California with his fiancée Erica and their problem child, Cal, an Australian Shepherd.

You can find Cullen's bio here: https://www.pragcap.com/meet-cullen-roche/

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Craig Moffett - A True Expert

Craig Moffett has covered the telecommunications industry – first as a management consultant and later as a Wall Street analyst – for more than thirty years. He has been elected to Institutional Investor Magazine’s All-American Research Team in the U.S. Telecom and/or Cable & Satellite sectors on seventeen separate occasions, including nine separate appearances as the #1 analyst in America in either U.S. Telecom and/or Cable & Satellite.

Prior to founding MoffettNathanson, Mr. Moffett spent more than ten years at Sanford Bernstein & Co., LLC as a senior research analyst. He was previously the President and founder of the e-commerce business at Sotheby’s Holdings, the venerable auction house, where, in 1999, he led Sothebys.com to what was then the highest first year sales of any consumer website ever launched. Mr. Moffett spent more than eleven years at The Boston Consulting Group, where he was a Partner and Vice President specializing in telecommunications. He was the leader of BCG’s global Telecommunications practice from 1996 to 1999. While at BCG, he led client initiatives in the U.S. local, long distance, and wireless sectors, in both consumer and commercial services, and advised companies outside the U.S. in Europe, Latin America, and Asia.

Mr. Moffett graduated from Harvard Business School with Honors in 1989. He received a BA from Brown University, where he was magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, in 1984.

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Mark Newfield - Keep Going!

Mark started his professional work life as a consultant with Accenture, where he helped clients for 14 years. He founded his advisory business in 2005, and in 2022 joined Journey Strategic wealth through a merger of his firm with Journey. Prior to graduating from university, he was an auto mechanic, was in the auto parts industry, and spent time as a retail store manager. Mark’s focus has always been either providing advice or fixing things. What drives Mark is helping others reach their goals. Mark believes both financial freedom and fun can occur concurrently. You will find that he has an active (sometimes too active!) sense of humor. He’s quite proud that his teammates Angela and Melissa have been with him for 14 and 12 years and will do everything possible to make sure Danielle stays “forever”, as well. He’s a little nutty about college basketball, golf, and several other sports. In addition, he loves taking beach and golf trips with his family and is an avid reader. Mark holds an Accounting degree from Virginia Commonwealth University as well as the CFP® and RICP® designations.

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Matt Cochrane - Moats and More

Matt Cochrane (@Matt_Cochrane7 on Twitter) stops by The Business Brew to discuss his investment philosophy, how it’s evolved over the past few years, Big Tech, and more. Matt is a police officer with a passion for investing.

He began his investment education by studying The Motley Fool discussion boards. Bill and Matt catch up regularly and Bill always enjoys chatting with Matt. This week they decided to record one of those conversations.

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Alex Morris - TSOH Returns

This episode features Alex Morris of TSOH Investment Research.

You can find his Substack at https://substack.com/profile/10489671-the-science-of-hitting.

In this episode, Alex and Bill have a casual conversation; mostly about media and cable.

Through the conversation you will hear how Alex thinks about partnering with companies and management teams for the long term.

You will also hear how Alex thinks about competitive positions and strategic decision making.

Alex is a wonderful person that is sharing his investment journey publicly.

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Daniel Needham - Multi Asset Investing

Daniel Needham, CFA, stops by The Business Brew for a wide ranging discussion. Daniel is a wealth of knowledge. He is president of Morningstar’s Wealth Management Solutions, which includes software and aggregation capabilities from Morningstar Office and ByAllAccounts, and the individual investor experience across Morningstar.com, and Morningstar Investment Management.After the recent acquisition, he also oversees the U.K. and international business of Praemium and their core products, which were re-branded to Morningstar Wealth Platform and Wealthcraft, a Morningstar company.Prior to his current role, Needham served as president and global chief investment officer since 2015 for Morningstar’s Investment Management group, a unit of Morningstar, Inc., that provides managed portfolio services, retirement, and investment advisory for financial institutions, plan sponsors, and advisors through investment management entities around the world.In 2013, Needham stepped into the global chief investment officer role for the Investment Management group, and he also assumed responsibility for Morningstar’s investment management operations in Europe. Previously, Needham was chief investment officer and managing director for Investment Management in Asia-Pacific, including Ibbotson Associates Australia, where he led the group’s business and investment activities in the region.Needham joined Morningstar in 2009 through the company’s acquisition of Intech Pty Ltd., where he served as chief investment officer. He also held other investment roles including analyst, portfolio manager, and head of multi-strategy. Before joining Intech in 2002, Needham worked for Zurich Financial Services in Sydney. Needham holds a bachelor’s degree in commerce from the University of Sydney, where he majored in finance and economics.He also holds the Chartered Financial Analyst® designation and is an interested trustee for the Morningstar Funds Trust.Supplemental Information -Following the podcast recording, Mr. Needham sent the following information to Bill (shared with permission):Here are some useful books to learn more about MMT and Post-Keynesian economics. It pays to tread carefully with all this stuff given the political leaning of the respective economic schools of thought.Soft Currency Economics – Warren Mosler – provides a lens to why the system is different for certain governments post the gold standardJohn Maynard Keynes – Hyman Minsky – one of the best early critiques of the modern economic consensus that dominates central banks and government treasuries

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Kyle Mowery - Uncovering Hidden Growth Engines

Kyle Mowery, Founder & Portfolio Manager at GrizzlyRock Capital stops by The Business Brew to discuss his investment philosophy.

Kyle is a traditional value investor that tends to focus on smaller, cyclical companies.

In this episode he talks about why he fishes in that pond, where he has found his biggest winners, how he thinks about investing, and much more.

GrizzlyRock does very deep due diligence and Bill thinks highly of their work. We hope you enjoy the conversation! You can find Kyle’s Orion Engineered Carbons conversation with Andrew Walker at https://open.spotify.com/episode/7xmapUv85wtAoHpGlcMxmP?si=3wZXGogJT5-zbU5aJxv1NA or https://yetanothervalueblog.com/podcast

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Marc Cohodes - An Independent Investor

Marc Cohodes' (@AlderLaneEggs on Twitter) LinkedIn profile describes him as the "Head Bull Fighter at Alder Lane Farm."

He is a well known short seller, but in this episode he discusses how he thinks about his long positions more than he discusses short selling.

Marc is highly entertaining, informed by deep due diligence, and is not afraid to say what is on his mind.

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Evan Tindell - Where Poker and The Market Collide

Evan Tindell joins The Business Brew to discuss how his background as a poker player influences his investing philosophy, how he got started in the business, and he drops some knowledge about shorting. Bill reached out to Evan because Bill wanted to discuss position sizing and “Kelly betting,” which was the catalyst for this conversation.

Please pardon some construction noise in the beginning, the conversation’s quality is worth listening past some background noise.

You can follow Evan’s firm at https://www.biremecapital.com/ and Evan at @evantindell on Twitter (https://twitter.com/evantindell).

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Scott Reardon - Study The Greats

Scott Reardon, Portfolio Manager at Dakota Value Funds, Author of The Dark Continent series and Bonfire of the Beasts, stops by The Business Brew to chat about what he learned by studying the greatest investors of all time.

Scott's work led him to focus on very favorable risk/reward scenarios.

While that might sound trite, it's hard in practice.

You can read Scott's work at:

Greatest investors: https://www.dakotavalue.com/stewart-s-bridge-paper

Cyclicality of markets and life: https://www.dakotavalue.com/draper-s-carousel

Album art photo taken by Mike Ando. Please see www.mikeando.com.

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Chadd Garcia - The Intersection of Returns and Morals

Chadd Garcia hosted the The Business Brew for this conversation.

Chadd runs the Ave Maria Focused Fund, which is a non-diversified mutual fund (ticker: AVEAX).

His portfolio holding are eclectic.

Some themes you will see in there are quality and compounders.

However, several of the companies are undergoing business transformations or have advantaged business models. Chadd has an interesting background.

He grew up on a family farm in Arizona.

He worked in management at a multi-national agribusiness, where he helped turnaround of a business.

He caught the investing bug and headed to Harvard Business School to get into finance.

He spent time in investment banking and private equity before moving over to public markets.

I think these experiences give him an interesting perspective and thought process that he brings to investing.

He’s a natural teacher and I am excited for this episode. Chadd is lead portfolio of the Ave Maria Focused Fund and co-portfolio manager of the Ave Maria Growth Fund.

He is also responsible for equity research functions for the firm. Previously, Chadd analyzed public equities as a Managing Director at SQ Advisors.

Prior thereto Chadd worked in private equity as a Managing Director at Gulf Coast Capital Partners and as Vice President at Comvest Partners.

Before his work in private equity, Chadd was an Associate in the mergers and acquisitions group at CIBC World Markets. Chadd has a Bachelor of Science degree in Agricultural Resource and Economics from The University of Arizona and a Master of Business Administration degree from Harvard University.

He is a board member and CFO of The Rising Farmworker Dream Fund and is a Knight in the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. He is a CFA® charterholder. Contact Chadd at CMG@schwartzinvest.com Ave Maria Funds Page:

https://www.avemariafunds.com/fund-family/aveax.html Fund Commentary Found Here:

https://www.avemariafunds.com/financial-insight/fund-commentaries.html Album art photo taken by Mike Ando. Please see www.mikeando.com. Thank you to @mathewpassy (on Twitter) for the show production. Please leave us a rating in your favorite podcast player! Detailed Show Notes: 2:40 - What Chadd learned from studying HEICO 12:10 - An accounting lesson worth listening to 19:45 - Chadd's thesis on eDreams 29:40 - What Chadd looks for to premortum businesses 33:00 - A discussion about Green Plains and business transformation 39:10 - A discussion about GFL (a waste management company) 42:40 - How Chadd thinks about position sizing 44:50 - The moral component of what Chadd does 53:55 - How Chadd analyzed the short report behind GFL

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Tom Morgan - The Most Interesting Man in Finance

Tom Morgan stops by The Business Brew for a wide-ranging conversation. As any man of mystery would do, Tom did not provide many details to help the “show notes.” So check out the episode and transcript to learn more; or really anything about Tom.

Tom is the Director of Content and Communications at The KCP Group. His writings can be found at https://thekcpgroup.com/insights. He describes himself as a curious sherpa.

He's always looking to find interesting people and ideas. You can find Tom at @tom_morganKCP on Twitter.

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William Green - The Man Behind The Books

William Green, best-selling author and podcast host extraordinaire, comes back to The Business Brew to have a very real conversation about life.

William's first appearance was part of the launch of Richer, Wiser, Happier, which you can find at https://www.amazon.com/s?k=richer+wiser+happier+william+green&i=audible&sprefix=richer%2Caudible%2C84&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_6.

This conversation is more focused on William's career and lessons he has learned.

This was a conversation that really put a smile on Bill's face and it is one The Business Brew is very proud to feature.

Hopefully this conversation shows a unique side to William Green; the side Bill got to see when they first met.

We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as Bill enjoyed recording it.

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Jordan Noone - Rockets and Venture Capital

Jordan Noone stops by The Business Brew to discuss his experience founding Embedded Ventures and Relativity Space.

At the age of just 22 years old Jordan co-founded Relativity Space, which 3D prints rockets. Yes, rockets! See https://www.relativityspace.com/. Following his time at Relativity Space, Jordan co-founded Embedded Ventures, a venture capital firm. Embedded has an interesting goal of using "clean capital" to enhance the security of the US while generating investor returns.

See below for the official bios on both of Jordan's companies. We hope you enjoy the conversation! ABOUT EMBEDDED VENTURES - See https://www.embedded.ventures/ -

Launched in 2020, Embedded Ventures is a next generation venture capital firm investing in dual-use space startups beyond launch. Best described as “the skunkworks of Venture Capital” because of their unique investment approach and backgrounds, Embedded has a first-of-its-kind partnership with the United States Space Force. Co-Founders Jenna Bryant and Jordan Noone both have atypical industry experiences and strong passions for the communities they represent. The firm invests in the pre-seed and seed stage startups focused on space operations, digital engineering, and advanced manufacturing. To date, Embedded Ventures has announced investments in Chromatic 3D Materials, Inversion, KittyCAD, Slingshot Aerospace and Skyryse. ABOUT JORDAN NOONE Jordan Noone is the Co-Founder, CTO, and General Partner at Embedded Ventures, the skunkworks of deep tech venture capital. Launched with his Co-Founder Jenna Bryant. Jordan is Relativity’s Co-Founder and founding CTO - as of 2020, Relativity is the world’s second most valuable private space company. As Relativity's CTO, Jordan focused on technical direction and engineering design, including: developing printing technology, launch vehicle design, propulsion design, software development, infrastructure development, and government affairs. Jordan also led many Relativity initiatives including: expansion of Relativity’s Stargate Factory into the rest of aerospace manufacturing, Relativity’s strategy for expanding printing technology off-planet; and the ability of Relativity’s factory flexibly scale to a wide range of rocket sizes. Jordan has had a lifelong interest in aerospace, including the design and build of spaceflight hardware at the age of 18 while at the University of Southern California, and becoming the first student and youngest individual in the world to get Federal Aviation Administration clearance to fly a rocket to space (150 kilometer altitude) while leading USC’s Rocket Propulsion Lab. In 2015 he started Relativity when 22 years old. He has been chosen for “30 Under 30” by Forbes, Business Insider, and Inc. Magazine. He received a BS in Aerospace Engineering, and dropped out of a BS in Biophysics, both from University of Southern California. Outside of Relativity, Jordan is active in promoting STEM education worldwide with the US Department of State.

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Cem Karsan - Derivatives ARE The Underlying

Cem Karsan stops by The Business Brew to discuss the lens he views markets through.

Cem's viewpoint is unique compared to many guests on this program because he looks at how options dealers are positioned and considers what flows may result from that positioning.

Many guests on this show view equity valuation as the present value of the discounted cash flows available to equity.

While Cem would likely agree with that, he argues in this episode that an equity's valuation is really an output derived from the options market (which expresses probabilistic views of discounted cash flows).

We hope this episode gives you something to think about! Cem Karsan formed Kai Volatility Advisors after two decades of experience building industry-leading derivatives businesses.

From 1999 to 2002, he worked as a volatility trader as part of RBC Dominion Securities/ Derivatives Arbitrage Group.

From 2002 to 2005, he worked under renowned Wall St. investor John Mulheren at Bear Wagner Specialists, where Cem helped expand the firm's fledgling derivatives arbitrage business into a competitive force within the industry.

In 2005, Cem took a select group from the firm's proprietary trading arm and founded Precision Capital Management, specializing in equity index volatility arbitrage.

The firm became a significant SPX market maker reaching, at its peak, a high of ~13% of daily trading volume.*

In 2010, Cem divested his stake in Precision and fouded AEGEA Capital, the precursor to Kai Volatility Advisors. *Past performance may not be indicative of future results. Follow Cem on Twitter https://twitter.com/jam_croissant Learn more about Kai: https://www.kaivolatility.com/contact

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